Thursday, September 12, 2013

Mandatory iPad Requirement?



Humor me for a second if you will. I am currently enrolled in a class, and part of the discussion yesterday was about classroom curriculum. One of the professors (enrolled in the class) mentioned that she is considering making the iPad a mandatory purchase for her classes. I was surprised, but not as much as I was when other professors began chiming in that they were considering the same, or had already implemented the policy.

What?!?!?

I have to say that I was most DEFINITELY in the minority with my opinion that this might not be such a good idea for the students. In fact, and I humbly admit it, I was the only one who participated in the discussion that thought it was a bad idea.


These are professors working in public institutions (not private or Ivy League institutions of higher learning). Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember the majority of college students in such institutions, especially in their beginning years, being flat-out broke.

I mentioned that requiring an iPad could be cost-prohibitive, and was pooh-pooh'd with responses such as, "Everyone already has one anyway." I don't think 'everyone' has one. Though I realize it is not uncommon for students to own an iPad, there are some students who simply cannot afford one. Requiring them to shell out $500 they didn't know they'd have to have seems insensitive to me, or worse, could cause them to drop a class. If the requirement is not mentioned until after the Drop/Add period is over, it could cause a real hardship for certain students.


Another reason, and it is definitely a secondary (but still valid) one, is that some people simply do not like the iPad (raising my hand here). My husband and second oldest both have iPads and they LOVE them, not a day goes by that they don't fire theirs up and use it for something. I'm not a fan (for a few reasons, but that's irrelevant). Maybe other students are not fans as well. Why would they be required to purchase an item for $500 + that they might only use that one semester, that they don't even like (in addition to the high cost of their textbook). The perfect example can be seen with my oldest son and his wife: They love their tablet, but the iPad is not their favored choice. In fact, they exchanged an iPad I got them as a Christmas gift because it was not something they wanted to own (they've both used one before, and simply like theirs better).

There are other reasons, but those two are good enough in my way of thinking. When you're working with students, and educating them is your primary concern, adding bells and whistles that they have to shell out big bucks for (and yes, I do think $500 can be considered big bucks for a college student) seems ludicrous to me.

I realize there are many of you who may agree with my fellow classmates, and that's fine. I'm just wondering, who does and who doesn't?  Do you think it's acceptable for professors to require an iPad for use in the classroom?

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  1. I know some schools supply them and include them in tuition. So either way you are paying for it, but I think in this case if the require it, at least you are not having to pay it out right in the onset if you are taking loans. But I am with you Rosey (as much as I like my iPad) think it shouldn't be mandatory, because many just can't afford it and not fair to those who can't.

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    1. See, I knew I wasn't the only one thinking this way. It's so easy to get caught up in an idea if everyone around you or in your field is on the bandwagon, but in the real world a $500 requirement, on top of tuition and book costs, can be more than a challenge, it can be a real deterrent to higher learning!

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  2. I have to agree with you.
    I think many people try to live above their means and so it might seem that 'majority already have it', when that's not really the case.

    That is quite a lot of money for a student, even an adult like me cannot afford one!
    That should not be mandatory. A requirement to use computer might be, but then the school will provide or homework done at home/library.

    Sad thing is, if no one says anything or you are the minority, then something like this will pass and not just because others don't want to say something too, they might feel afraid to not be in the 'in crowd' of owning an iPad.

    Anyway, enough with my rambling. I agree with you and that's definitely ludicrous that they would proffer to make such a thing mandatory.

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    1. I'm so relieved that others agree. I was alarmed (am still alarmed) that I was the black sheep on this one. I don't like it. It makes me want to soapbox (and besides airlines that don't want to let your 5yr old sit with you, ha! 'soapboxing' isn't really my thing). ;)

      I realize technology is important, but is it necessary to pinpoint its instruction (in a regular classroom, not an 'ipad app' class or something like that) to a specific product? Not at the risk of losing students, it's not...or at least in my way of thinking.

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  3. I also believe your frame of thought. Such frivolous, expensive items should not be made mandatory. Where will this nonsense stop? Will they next require that all students own a BMW or a Ferrari ?

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    1. Thank you for your comment, I am so glad it's not just me that sees it as being superficial. And you're right, were does it stop?

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  4. Rosey
    YOU got my vote. While you're at it, why don't you run for some political office? Again you'd have my vote. If the iPad wasn't specified in the class requirements, I wouldn't believe what this teacher is trying to teach. Period. Good for you!!!!!!

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    1. I wouldn't get many votes if I ran for office, my views are not always (almost never) the majority rule. That's okay, I'm not running. ;)

      Thank you for your thoughts on this one. It's a topic that eats at me, and to know some teachers are already requiring iPads, and others really want to, has just left me dumbfounded. It's an underlying symptom to me, I think, of profs not really putting the students first, whether they realize it or not (again, I know that's going to be a minority opinion). And I'm not anti-prof., HUGELY on the contrary... I'm just more pro-student.

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  5. Well you know me right? I'm with your husband and your oldest with the "love". But as far as educational purposes I guess I'd have to see it in action. People should at least be able to choose which device or an alternative method should be offered that doesn't punish or inconvenience a student for not having one.

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    1. Your idea of providing contingencies is a good one. I'm not anti-iPad, I'm anti-'have-to-have-an-iPad.' If using an iPad is going to be mandatory, find a way to provide them for students that don't own one, without making them feel financially burdened or like 2nd-class citizens (if they can't afford one).

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  6. our school system is about to issues pads to every student instead of textbooks...actually like the windows pad better than the ipad right now...but we use ipads in class already so the next gen will def be used to using them...

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    1. Gah, that's not even college, right?? No wonder my classmates are viewing me as hopelessly outdated in my points of view. At least your school is providing them.

      I have profs that provide electronic books in lieu of traditional hardbacks. I like the 'real' books better, but I'm in the minority there too (Eesh). :)

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  7. There are a few towns around me that are making iPads mandatory for middle schoolers. What? I'm nearly 40 and I don't even have one for myself, but if I lived in one of those towns I would need one for my 12 year old? I don't really agree with it, but in a way I can understand why they are using them. I just think they should kick in for the cost if they are requiring them.

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    1. I remember being irked paying over a hundred dollars for a calculator for my son's high school Math. An iPad is worse. I think if they want to use them, they should provide them. Can't afford them, well yeah... that's one of my points, not everyone can. I'm just dumbfounded that this is going on in the K-12 arena too. I thought it was bad enough at the higher level.

      I KNOW there are k-12 kids whose families cannot afford an iPad. And what about damaged products...they are kids after all. They're going to drop them, lose them, etc. Oy!

      Apple stock investment anyone? Sheesh!

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  8. Seems unfair to me. As it is they likely already all have to buy laptops

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    1. I'm really surprised to learn mandatory big purchases are trickling down to K-12. Technology gets outdated pretty fast, I'm surprised that's not a consideration too.

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  9. I would leave this class if this is required. It is not fair one bit to require such a huge purchase for a class. Not fair one bit. You might want to take this with someone in charge at the school.

    Have a terrific day. ☺

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    1. It's not just one school. I'm in a class, and the professors (students of the class) are talking about how they mandate it, or want to mandate it. My opinion is viewed as being outdated. And maybe it is, but I still think for the sake of ALL students that it's the right opinion.

      Provide them if you want the kids to have to use them. Just my (not popular) opinion.

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  10. We have our students leave with Mac Books, but they know up front that they get one in the recruiting process. Since it's a graphic design school, it's used in most of their assignments. We have them get apple care for anything that happens, like a hard drive going out. That does not cover them dropping it, spilling water on it, or if it gets stolen.

    Just for one class requiring an i-Pad is silly! It should be a school wide thing, and be told up front before being accepted into the school.

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    1. Disclosing the info. up front works for me. Then it's a choice. Making it required for students who hadn't a clue, after they're already in a program and have to have the class requiring it just doesn't sit well with me. I really, really don't like it.

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  11. I am 100% with you on this one. What kind of people do they think they are dealing with... the rich and famous?

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    1. College students are rarely either. ;)

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  12. I agree with you, also. They should not require you to have an Ipad.

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    1. I'm surprised it's so common. My son's Kindergarten teacher has one that the class uses, and they have a big Smart Board too, but they provide it. That's the big difference to me. If you want the kids to use it, provide it. Otherwise, it should be optional and not a hindrance to the student (at any grade level) if they don't have one.

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  13. They have just built a new school in our district and they are requiring iPads for elementary students! I mean, I think it is ridiculous for college students because not everyone has the money for this, but elementary students???? Good grief.

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  14. THis is so unacceptable and unfair. Many families cannot afford them. As a Blogger, I receive a lot of perks and among them have been an ipad, ipad mini and a sampsung tablet, but that's me! Agree so much with you!

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    1. Many families really cannot afford them. I don't know why that's hard for others in charge of allowing the mandatory requirement of iPads to see. Why create unnecessary hardship for students who are just trying to get their college education in? Yes, I do believe it can create an unnecessary hardship when you're a college student and have to suddenly fork over $500+ you had no clue you were going to have to pay.

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  15. That would be messed up to require one. I mean if you get a grant, you could use the money like you do for books. But if you are shelling out the money yourself and NEED this class but can't afford the iPad.
    I don't think that's right.

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    1. Exactly. If the student needs the class, they're up a creek without a paddle if they can't afford the iPad.

      Sadly, some professors (and evidently teachers in K-12 too if I've read some of the comments correctly) are already requiring them.

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  16. I totally agree with you Rosey. We have an iPad, only because my Dad gave us his first generation! (He had to upgrade.)I also never use the iPad. I just did a review of a Chromebook - half the price of an iPad, but with keyboard! hello? Why would anyone shell out the money for an iPad? lol

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    1. I don't like anything that expensive being required. Tuition and books are expensive enough, and student loan default rates are already through the roof. Why add to the financial hardship of a kid (and college students are generally still kids), or even an adult for that matter? For the sake of technology that is rapidly changing anyway? The iPad could be obsolete in the next ten years. Maybe even sooner. Stranger things have happened.

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  17. $500 is A LOT of money to some people. My husband makes decent money, and it would still require us to rework our numbers for a couple of weeks if he had to have one for one of his classes, and it was thrown on us at the last minute.

    My husband and I neither one have any real desire to have an IPAD either. We have a tablet, Kindle Fire, and smart phones, in addition to a laptop, and two desktop computers. In our opinion that is enough.

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    1. On the very simplest side of things, I don't like or want an iPad, and I'd be p.o.'d if a teacher said I HAD to buy one to get credit in a class.

      It goes deeper than that though, some families can barely afford gas to get to school, or have sacrificed a job so one person can go to school...or there could be any other myriad of reasons for them that money is tight. I just think it's overstepping boundaries to slap them with a $500 additional requirement. I really don't like it.

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  18. I am right there with you Rosey. Many families have a hard enough time putting food on the table. Requiring a $500 device to take a class is ridiculous! We actually bring in a decent living. We aren't struggling, but even with that, we simply can not afford an ipad. I do have a Kindle Fire, which I love, and would like to make the switch to an ipad, but it just isn't in the budget for us. If we can't swing that, I highly doubt that college students can.

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    1. I'm pretty sure that most college students are not swimming in the dough, and an out-of-the-blue $500 cost COULD adversely affect them. No one's hearing me though, I'm outdated. Caring about the poor kids, or the kids struggling to make ends meet while busting their butt to get their education is outdated.

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  19. Pfft yep, load of crap, one i hate the ipad, two the damn colleges and such suck enough money away. They say laptop mandatory and/or ipad, then yeah as you need a computer now a days anyway and you can get a basic laptop cheap. But just ipad? Isn't that some sort of monopoly thing which is kinda illegal?

    And they are doing it here for junior high kids and kids being kids they are likely to break having to lug them to school and home again, dumb dumb dumb

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    1. College tuition and books DO cost a fortune (either now, or if you're borrowing, later) in and of themselves. And I thought of the monopoly thing too. Some people don't want an iPad and you're not selling it back for what you bought it for, even if you've only had it one semester.

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  20. I have to agree - I do have an iPad but I was lucky enough to win it - I could just pop out and buy one if it was mandatory on a list of requirements.

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    1. I was shocked when it was in the context of college coursework, I'm even more dumbstruck to hear the idea has trickled down to the K-12 grades.

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  21. My husband has an iPad and loves it but I can't stand it! And I think it is WAY out of line for any teacher to demand her students to purchase iPods in order to participate in the class. That's just crazy.

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    1. It's already happening, and others are quickly jumping on the bandwagon. How do these things even get initially approved? There are so many cons on a pro/con list that you'd think (for that reason alone) the consideration would be given more pause.

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  22. Oh Heck No!!!! like what they are charging is not enough then on top of that you HAVE to get an ipad? and no...not everybody has one, it shouldn't be mandatory, what's next...dress code? and even on that one I would be a little more flexible than if they required me buy technology only for what 6 -4 months of his class?...geezzz...what is it with people now? they can't survive without darn technology!

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    1. I just think they're not seeing outside of what they want to teach. I understand passion for what you're teaching, but most educators KNOW the limitations budget restrictions can cause, why impose that kind of (potential) hardship on the students?

      It seems to be a minimal or non-existent concern. It's more important that they have that iPad.

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  23. iPads are compulsory in many Indian schools too but if students cant afford then they can have a tablet issued by school authorities. Really good post

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    1. I applaud the policy to put provisions in place for those students who do not have the extra money to buy one.

      If it's a requirement, I think there should be a viable alternative to a purchase (for students who cannot afford one).

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  24. That is a ridiculous requirement. I'm not a fan of the iPad and it's certainly not cheap.

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  25. You are absolutely NOT wrong in your opinion of this. I think it is ludicrous for schools to mandate something like this. Especially considering the cost of them and some people really have a disdain for Apple products. Now, I love my iPad and while I do see the benefits of using one, it should not be for a school to make something like that mandatory.
    Providing them during school hours is a different story -- kind of like checking out a book. But should not be mandated.

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    1. Right! You want to make them mandatory, have a borrow system or something in place for the kids who don't have five hundred dollars in their back pocket.

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  26. I'm with you 100%! I don't like IPads either, we have an Android tablet. My husband and I had this discussion a few weeks ago when we learned that one of the school districts was providing IPads for the classrooms. No one should be expected to make a purchase like that for class, like you said, not everyone can afford one; I know of a few ladies who are raising their great-grandkids on a limited income and they would not be able to buy a tablet or IPad.
    I don't personally understand why they would want to make it a requirement. Is it for research purposes or for turning in assignments. Either way I still say no, not necessary; it's an unrealistic expectation. I love technology but my concern is this, is anybody going to know how to write 10-15 years down the road. My grandboys Kindergarten class even has computers and I think that is crazy.

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    1. I spent a year working in a K-8 charter school for poor kids. A good number of those students were being raised by grandparents or single parents on a fixed-income. The idea of buying an iPad to them wouldn't have even been a consideration (new shoes for the school year were hard enough to come by).

      I'm so surprised to see comments where mandatory iPad purchases are required in grades lower than college (and I'm surprised they're required for some college classes too).

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  27. I agree with your train of thought, I think a Ipad is way too expensive to be a "mandatory" item to buy!

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    1. I think it's a trend, and I doubt it's going to go anywhere soon. Being technologically savvy does make sense to me, just not via mandatory $500 purchases required of the students out of the blue.

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  28. I agree that Professors should not make it a requirement to own an IPad. When a person is in college, they are watching every penny, and there are so many students who can not afford to buy this high priced item. I think it is wrong to require IPads to students!

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    1. A lot of the kids in college would have to work two or three weeks to make that kind of money, especially if they're working part-time. Some just couldn't do it at all.

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  29. Why should an Ipad be mandatory? Do they have a sponsorship with Apple?

    This is just ridiculous asking students to buy an Ipad, what can it do better than having an laptop or any other brand of tablet...or just use pen and paper, OK the googling will be a lot harder.

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    1. Apple's definitely the company to be right now.

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  30. Well, when I was an undergrad in Seattle we had to have a laptop in one of my classes. Also if you have ever taken a biology class at a large school one book can cost 200-300 dollars, so an ipad wouldn't cost much more. I paid all my own school and worked to pay for living expenses etc. Having grown up near micro soft it was always assumed that everyone had a computer or access to a computer lab and most assignments were computer based. For one class we had to create a website (this was 1997) and it required a lot of computer access - basically a laptop. I also taught undergrad classes and I required assignments that would require laptops or a large amount of time at a school computer lab. Plus they were required to buy software which cost 400 dollars. Reading the comments though I guess I am the odd one out :)

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    1. Ann, I just fainted when I got to the $400 software requirement line.

      You would be in the MAJORITY in my class. And I respect and like those professors who are enrolled, just like I respect and like you tons, but I just cannot get on board for those kinds of requirements.

      I've seen students struggle like nothing else just to meet tuition and/or book prices...adding anything else on top of those bills would be like adding the straw that broke the camel's back. And for what? An iPad (that they may or may not want after the class) that will be outdated in six months (because the newer version is better)?

      Thank you for weighing in. It's interesting to me that your perspective is that of an instructor/professor. It seems to be the majority opinion in higher ed. I stand on the outside of the line for this one, and it's glaringly evident in my class this semester.

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  31. I have never heard of a professor requiring an iPad when the school does not supply them. A friend of mine attends a school that has a partnership with Apple, so she gets an iPad to use for the entirety of her stay at the institution. Then it makes sense to me. But expecting broke college students to invest in such an expensive piece of technology in a class with content that does not require its use seems ridiculous. If the professor goes ahead with it, I would get in contact with your Dean of Students.

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    1. It's not just one professor. I am in a doctorate-level course with a handful of professors who teach various courses, at various institutions, and they are ALL on board with requiring the iPad in their classrooms (some do so already).

      I suspect the academic deans have already approved the practice. iPads are becoming more than trendy, it seems.

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  32. I raise my hand with yours. Good grief. Unless the prof. is willing to provide an iPad, she/he better re-examine that decision.

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    1. They're not willing to provide them, and if they were I highly doubt school budget would permit it. ;)

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  33. ok are they going to be providing the iPad money for purchase as well? As far I knew text books were the mandatory requirement. That professor needs to rethink her decision. smh

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    1. The baffling thing is it was more than one professor. I am enrolled in a class with a number of professors, all teaching different courses at different institutions, and each and every one of them either implements the practice already, or has the desire to in the near future.

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  34. I don't think that anyone should be required to buy an Ipod... I do not have 500.00 to shell out for something like that, honestly are they going to start having this in the younger grades as well... I agree with you Rosey... wow

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    1. I don't know if it will catch on in the younger grades or not. I just found out from this post that the K-12 schools also consider/or do it. I'm still wrapping my mind around a college class doing it. ;) Thanks for the visit, Launna.

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  35. I am trying to watch my mouth here... as it is full of profanities that want to come out...
    There is NO WAY that I think that is fair...
    School is already hard on many as it is...
    Some kids do still use LIBRARIES (GASP!) to get online... Not everyone can afford a tablet (some as cheap as $100) much less an IPAD.
    That would totally tick me off...
    Think about us...
    My stepsons - 17.15 and 12
    NONE of them have an IPAD. Heck, we don't even have IPADS... we checked them out and LOVE our SAMSUNG TABLET so much...
    With school being SO EXPENSIVE these days, how do they think kids are going to be able to afford to go to school... purchase books ($125 for a book for one semester that you sell back to them for $25?! RIPOFF!!!)
    Hey, I am 34 and am still in PLENTY of debt for my college days... (No, I am not just talking classes.. but social life too, gotta be honest!)

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    1. You know, that's another good point of view, Noelle. Some parents footing the bills for more than one child are likely not going to be happy with $500 + costs for one-semester course requirements above and beyond the price of tuition & books.

      There are so many examples for why this is reasonably not a good idea. At least to my way of thinking...but like I said, I'm the only one who feels that way in my uni. class.

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  36. We have iPads but so many of my friends have other types of technology and don't have them. I am with you. I think if they are required, than the professor should provide them for the semester. How do you think that would go over? ;)

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    1. Probably like a ton of bricks. ;)

      Professors can't afford to buy them, understandably so.
      School budgets cannot afford to allocate those kinds of funds either, understandably so.

      And students, again understandably so, should not be required to 'afford them' either. IMO

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  37. My daughter is in first grade and since she started kindergarten, it has been a requirement that we get an iPad for her. They are super pricey. We don't own one ourselves and I I understand they are easier than textbooks, but for such young kids, I'm terrified it's going to get broken

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    1. That would be my primary concern with a child so young too. I'm so surprised to hear how common the iPad requirement really is... I guess I'm behind the times, but it doesn't make me change my mind at all about it. :)

      Thanks for visiting.

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  38. I can't imagine having to get that for class. We have four kids buying an ipad for even one of them? Sorry no, we cannot afford that. The adults in the house don't even have one.I don't understand why schools/teachers are making things like this a requirement. It's like saying sorry if you can't afford it your not welcome here. You cannot learn because you don't have cash.
    I'm sorry what? No, not happening. I'd stand my ground on that one as a parent, my kids are in school. That's a let down in my eye... they aren't willing to just teach? :(

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    1. When I went to school (K-12) the most expensive thing we had to buy was a backpack. Things have certainly changed since then.

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  39. I think it's really something that should not be made a requirement. If it is, it should be across the board and not just for one class one semester, and there should be subsidies / sets for loans just in case someone can't afford it or don't want to buy one.

    Anyway the 2 reasons you gave are pretty valid. I'm an iPad user, not a tablet.. but if one of my class made it mandatory that I have to buy a tablet to attend, I'm most likely to skip it because I just don't see a reason why I should buy one just for that class! Ridiculous!

    Anyway if you can, pop by my blog later. I need your advice on some blog stuff :)

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    1. If it was across the board, and that was disclosed from the start, it would rest better with me. $500 just seems like a lot to spring on a student who's not expecting it.

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  40. I don't think it's a good idea either. I think my parents would have been quite upset about that when I was in school.

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    1. Ha, I'm imagining my mom's reaction if it had happened in pre-college days.

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  41. I still don't understand why we have professors now? (don't tell my brother I said that. He is professor) But the ipad is going to replace college campuses within 10 years.

    Rosey, you are so nice to me. I sincerely appreciate every kind word and compliment you pay me. I do! ♥

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    1. No way. We still need humans in education.

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    2. I think Joyce is right, we do need humans in every level of education. Even in distance learning courses the professor plays a pivotal role in what it is that is actually taught/learned.

      Thank you for your comment, you're sweet, Renae. :)

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  42. I agree with you Rosey! Ipads are so popular now. Anyway I don't have one. I have a smartphone but just because I wanted to have something else at home that I could access the internet on. Of course it was sold at a special price and was cheaper than an Ipad. I wonder if one day I will have an Ipad. Maybe by then there will be something new that everyone is buying!:)

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    1. I don't have a SmartPhone or an iPad. I'm the minority even in my family, lol, because I really don't want either. My thing is a keyboard, I like a full-sized keyboard. :)

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  43. I personally would rather drop money on something like an iPad than a book I would never use again. I have a huge amount of student loan debt, where thousands and thousands of dollars were spent on text books that I had to purchase. My personal feeling about education (college more specifically) is they charge an absorbent amount of money on things they shouldn't-fees like $250 a semester for parking. It is ridiculous the things they charge for and the price they charge. I am sure requiring students to have an iPad is just another "fee" that the student will eventually pay off.

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    1. They're requiring the iPad purchase on top of the required textbooks.

      Student loans are through the roof across the board. I can't help but wonder what the implications will be if students are unable to pay back the large amounts that have been borrowed. Long-term it could end up being not so pretty.

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  44. I love my iPad so I'm biased, but my kids have moved to e books for text books and to be honest getting the tablets and e books have been much cheaper than buying text books and its much lighter on their backs. Also as a bonus no storing big text books, sorry Rosey I have to disagree.

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    1. Our kids don't have e-books, but they don't pay for their texts either.

      The class I'm in now has an e-book instead of a required text, and it was free (the e-text, not the class ;) )!! I prefer a hard copy book to an e-book, but free is a really good price. ;)

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  45. As a college student myself I think it is a ridiculous request. I can barely afford my school books. Now in my cae I am lucky enough to own an Ipad because I got it as a gift if not I would be stuck and have to drop out if it was a mandatory requirement. It is not fair at all to the students.

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    1. Some kids would have to drop, I don't doubt it for a second. It bothers me because it seems an unnecessary reason to cause hardship to a student.

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  46. I love my iPad but it's mine through work, I could not afford for myself. I think it's pretty crazy to ask college students to buy that. But, I was in the minority in college too and seemed like everyone around me had money for everything they wanted while I struggled...

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    1. It's a pretty excessive cost to throw on a student at the last minute. And needing it for only one class seems frivolous.

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  47. As the parent of a college student, I absolutely agree with you. It's enough to have to buy your kid a computer for college but an iPad, too? That would absolutely strain us, especially when we are paying $125 - $200 per text book, not to mention tuition, housing, food, etc. These professors don't understand the real world.

    http://joycelansky.blogspot.com/2013/09/gbe2-slippery-slope.html

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    1. The attitude in my class is very matter-of-fact, as in 'If they want the class they'll buy the iPad.' I don't like it.

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  48. That is crazy I didn't know that who has money like that to spend an ipad its bad enough that a lap top is up there and cheapest you can find is maybe $300 and on sale and its the low end kind. I can imagine what I would have to buy my daughter when she goes to college

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    1. Tuition in and of itself is hard to meet if you're not taking out student loans. Books are never cheap. I just wish there was a way to have them for in-class use (so students didn't have to pay). A borrow system would be nice too, maybe through the university library or a class arrangement, for those students who didn't have one, but needed one for a class.

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  49. HA! I'd be laughing so hard in their faces and showing them proof of my empty bank account. Seriously, when are schools gonna cough up the supplies they demand of people like they did years ago? Even in my son's school... my mom spent a crap ton of money on stuff he apparently needed and we know they'll never use... ridiculous.

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    1. I'm surprised to read the comments from people saying iPads are required in primary/secondary education. I think other factors (the kids dropping, losing, cracking them, etc.) would come into play that would make me not like that even more.

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  50. The course I am about to start include these in our tuition and all my friends have gotten one as well. No matter what the course.

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    1. I'm not adverse to that, it was disclosed up front, and you knew going in, yes? That's way better than a note on a syllabus stating, 'oh yeah, and you have to have an iPad.' I have a weird requirement at my university that's not inexpensive by any means, but I knew going in. If it was sprung on me after I entered, things would have been very different, I'm sure.

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  51. I understand your concerns about finances and some students not being able to afford having ipads in class. However, as an educator, I can understand the desire to have them in the classroom because they facilitate the study of all units.

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    1. I think if they're so important to studies, there should be a system in place to assist or allow students not having the money to be able to obtain/use them without the cost of having to purchase one. Maybe schools can put them in the computer labs (maybe they're doing that already, for all I know, I hope so).

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  52. oh wow! besides the cost - this is a brand endorcement through your school. are the profs getting kickbacks? probably not, but still!

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    1. Apple's definitely got the market on the tablet use in the schools.

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  53. I think that this will be mandatory in schools before we know it.

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    1. I asked my husband what he thought about mandatory iPads in college, and he said what you just did, that they'll probably be mandatory in all schools soon enough.

      It doesn't look like that's too far-fetched after reading the comments here, but it still surprises me.

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  54. It probably will be mandatory soon. My friend is a teacher and she has to have one as a teacher.

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    1. My son's Kindergarten teacher has one for the class that the students use. I'm not sure if the school provided it or not.

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  55. I just had a discussion with another mom about a similar topic this morning. Our middle school's music program has converted to music software in lieu of practice books. Thus, each student must have a computer at home that they can download the software to in order to practice. Even if I bought into the belief that EVERY household has a computer, does every household have a dedicated computer for the kids because I'm certainly not having my two children tie up my computer which I use for work for an hour each day. I thought it was a huge assumption that every student could meet this requirement.

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    1. That is the assumption, that everyone has the latest and greatest technology, or at least has something that they can use. Some homes in the K-12 programs don't have the means to even pay a phone bill each month, much less have the means to buy and operate a computer. I don't know why it's taken for granted by decision makers that everyone can make it happen, if they really want to. Unfortunately, that is not really always the case.

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  56. If I were a student, I would cry. Seriously. I would never have been (and even now cannot) afford such a thing. I think the better idea would be to have a supply at the campus that can be loaned out, sure that may not be enough for "all" but it may help a little bit.

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    1. I think it's a great idea, Brandy. Get those iPads in the computer centers and libraries. Even if students can only use them on campus, at least it affords them better odds of being able to stay in the class (or just don't require iPads at all, but that doesn't seem to be the popular choice for the curriculum planners and admins. ;) ).

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  57. That is crazy.. Their is no way Alot of us can afford to get Ipads. Yes, I am fortunate enough to have an Android Tablet, but in some states and Schools. They are not as good as an IPAD. I would seriously cry if I had a class that required me to buy a certain item.

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    1. That's the thing that I don't like, is it seems to be an unnecessary restriction. Why do the students HAVE to have a $500 toy to get their education?

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  58. wow that is really ridiculous to have that as a requirement.

    knickgirl_3 at yahoo dot com

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  59. i am in complete agreement with you, rosey. i don't have an ipad. steve has a samsung pad...i know a bunch of people who don't have them. i think it's asking a LITTLE much...

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  60. totally in hate with Apple (other than ipod/music products) I don't like the setup of the systems and that is that. We are an android household all the way and I would never want to be FORCED to purchase something I really do not like. Agreed that the cost is ridiculous when you can buy similar products that can pretty much do the same.

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    1. I'm not a fan of being forced to buy a product for that price either, of something students may or may not like.

      I'm not a fan even if they like it. It seems excess and potentially restrictive. Education should generally never be restrictive.

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  61. It's been a long time since I've taken a college class, but I'd have to agree with you. I can see how some type of portable computer might be highly recommended, but I don't see why it should have to be an iPad or should be required.

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    1. Agreed on all accounts. It's surreal to me that no one in the group (and most of them are actively teaching in college courses) considers these points valid. I feel like an alien this semester (sometimes). ;)

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  62. As if the cost of schooling weren't high enough!

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    1. That's how I feel about it too, Terra.

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