Friday, January 25, 2013

Women in the Military



Our Wall Street Journals (yes, we're pretty old school and still get and like a traditional newspaper) are starting to pile up a bit, so this morning I picked one up and began to read it.  The first article I happened across was on the ban being lifted that previously prevented women in the military from active combat and open combat positions.  I am sure it has been in the news, but I haven't been reading my papers so I didn't know until today, and I was dumbstruck.

I know there are a lot of people in favor of it...equal opportunity and all of that, but being a woman, and having a daughter, I could not imagine either of us being on the front lines in the military.  I have a son who is currently active, and he's a big strong brute of a guy, and I can barely imagine him there (and I try hard not to).  When I went to finish that article, it turned out hubby took it to work with him (I guess we both decided to catch up on our reading today), but from what I can gather from a little follow-up online, it appears women are already doing this type of combat, but because of the former restriction(s) were unable to move ahead in the military, or gain recognition for their accomplishments.  Again, if that is true, and I suspect it is, I am just flabbergasted.  


Maybe it's not a hot topic, maybe it is, I don't know...what I'm wondering is do you have an opinion on it, and if so, why do you feel the way you do?

Please note, I am not trying to impugn any decision a woman makes for herself, it is her right, and have at it...but lifting the ban does seems almost surreal to me.  What does it mean for women already enlisted who don't want to serve on the front lines?  Will they at some point have no say-so in the matter?  And then to flip the coin, if genders are to be considered equal in the military, why would women have a choice if men do not?  

So many questions... so many exclamations come to mind for me.  And I know it is a moment to rejoice for many women (so please forgive me for having a difference of opinion if that encompasses your feelings, I'm not trying to rain on any parades), but it left me, in addition to feeling dumbstruck, a little hollow and a little sad too.  I'm not sure why...  

How do you feel about it?


32 comments:

  1. I'm honestly not sure how I feel about it. While I do think that women should be totally equal in all ways, you do raise a good point about trying to imagine my daughter on the front lines. But then I can't imagine either of my children in that way. I guess it just comes down to personal choice for each individual, man or woman.

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  2. I'm all for women deciding what they want to do but I as a woman would not choose the front lines. It's kind of a catch 20/20 like you said. However everyone should get recognition for what they've done no matter their sex.

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  3. Wow! Great post, tough topic. I can't imagine that combat is something many women would want to do, but I think they can do it. I also think those who have been fighting for their country need recognition. If the women who are fighting have kids, that is another matter. I don't think kids should have to grow up without their moms, because their moms are away at war or have died in combat.

    Tina - Amanda's Books and More

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  4. I understand your concerns Rosey, it can get quite out of hand and that would not be fair for our children. We can only hope for the best Rosey.
    Have a super blessed day!
    Love

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  5. This is such a tough question to answer...so many conflicting emotions. I keep going back and forth on it. I worry about childless parents if both parents are on the front lines.

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  6. Oooh, tough one. I think certain things would need to be weighed, mostly the woman's family life. Is her husband military? Is she a single parent? If putting her on the front lines and should she be killed, would that make her children parent-less? I can see where all of this would be a concern.

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  7. When I first heard this news I was pleased for the women that choose to be in the military and want this opportunity. However, the point you bring up about women who are serving but may not want to move to the front lines is something I didn't consider. So many things to ponder.

    Thank you for stopping by from Our Everyday Harvest blog hop Rosey.

    ~Ann
    http://www.annagainandagain.com/

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  8. If this remains an individual's choice, I think it's great for those women who are passionate about it - and driven to serve their country though active combat.

    For me personally, I could never do it.

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  9. Very good questions you ask ma'am.

    I think it should be a choice. Not mandatory. Just a choice.

    Someone women welcomes this move. Some don't/wont.
    So It must be a choice.

    But then again, we are talking about the military where you pledge to serve your country, which means you no longer make decisions for yourself in a whole way unless it falls under the banner that now owns you until you are free to go....so...where does that leave choice?

    Of course choice can never be taken away from any man.

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  10. I applaud you for getting your thoughts out there...especially knowing they may not be the majority's opinion! I think it should be everyone's choice. I cannot imagine my children in combat, but I also don't think it's fair that men have a choice and women do not...

    Stopping over from the hop, glad I did!

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  11. Yeah, it's a tough one. From what I heard on the news (and what you mentioned as well), apparently women were already fighting on the front lines even though there was a ban. So maybe lifiting the ban was more of a formality? But I don't know. I feel like I don't like it, but I'm still sorting out my thoughts!

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  12. I think each woman should have a right to choose.
    It would be her choice .... Since my husband is INFANTRY and IS the front line for combat, I would never want to do it... but like I said, it should at least be a choice they can make...

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  13. So many questions indeed! I just heard this on the radio and am going to have to think a lot more about it as this has a lot of complexities. Hard questions to answer.
    -Jamie
    http://chatterblossom.blogspot.com/

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  14. I hear ya, mail4rosey!

    With such crude men out there...safety of woman is a very imp issue. Sure, equal opportunity is good, but safety comes first.

    I am a woman and I would want safety first then an opportunity to show who I am.

    Loved this post.

    Following ya!!

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  15. Yeah certainly not an easy answer. But some strived for such equality in the military forever, so I'm sure to them it is a big win. Although may be something they wish they never got in the end, a being in actual combat can't be good for anyone.

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  16. There has been some discussion about this new development over here in Jamaica. I think it should be up to each woman to decide if she is willing to be on the front line. In this era of equal opportunity for men and women I think there are some who would support it but I am a bit weary about it. Have a good weekend Rosey.

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  17. Stirs up a lot of questions/thoughts and in the end, a rather difficult personal decision.

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  18. You are so right Rosey ~ this leads to more questions than answers. Especially considering the fact that if women are given the right to choose, what does that do to a man that doesn't want to serve on the front lines.
    I think it all comes down to personal decisions. They need to give that same decision however to men and women if they truly want to support equality.

    xoxo
    Lanaya
    www.raising-reagan.com

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  19. Such a complicated issue. Worrying about any child in a combat situation is truly excruciating. But I think many women have been quietly serving on the front lines for some time and the military is just now catching up publicly with a policy that's already in place. Think of pilots, mechanics, nurses, doctors, intelligence officers etc. I think the issue of both parents in the military could become quite complex, especially in the world we live in today. A new follower from the Fun Friday Blog Hop. Would luv if you could drop by my blog as well.

    Anne Marie
    moanasuniquedesigns.blogspot.com/

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  20. I am not sure how I feel on this subject. I would not want my Daughter even serving in the Military let alone being in the front line. I am protective I guess..... But I know if I had a son, I would feel the same way.

    I know we need our young men and women to protect our Country..... but Jeesh!!! I guess we openend up a can of worms when we started fighting for equal rights.... Darn.... Rosey... I don't know how to answer. I hate seeing our boys go off to war.... and now.... our girls.

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  21. hi Rosey! I say more power to them. If they have the strength and can pass the fitness, then more power to them, if they so choose.

    There that is the first and last comment. I don't like to delve into religion or politics on my blog. You asked. I answered.

    Thank you for your example of being a PR leader to me. I really appreciate THAT so MUCH!!!!! (hug)

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  22. I think that women deserve to have the same opportunities that the men do, but where I have reservations is this. You have to be able to carry your own weight and not hold your group back. If you have male partners they have to be able to know they can trust you and I think this will be very hard for many of them. I have a nephew who is in the Marines and he is an officer and has worked his way up from the bottom. He has done 6 tours in Afghanistan and Irag. He has nothing against women in the service, but he was telling me that they have really heavy things that they have to carry on the battlefield and many of the women that he have worked with would not be able to carry that weight. He said that he had no doubt they could handle the stress load but in many of the cases their bodies do not have the physical strength to do the job. He and many of the other men do not want to put their lives in danger to find out. This is a really hard issue for me.

    I hope that you have a wonderful weekend!!! :):)

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  23. Yes, interesting, I would have liked to do military service for women. Greetings.

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  24. I am one of those equal opportunity thinkers, but having a husband in the miliary, I know how heavy the equipment that they have to carry is, so I think that may be part of it. Not all women, but some may not have the physical strength to carry all that stuff (over 100 lbs from what I hear).

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  25. I think the issue is more about that they can't move up in the ranks and get the pay as easily, and I can't blame them for trying to change that. As long as they truly require them to pass the same standard that the men pass, and if they really can do that, fine. I just don't think they can having 4 brothers, and understanding the major differences in strength from male to female. Letting them try at least placates the situation, and is fair. I've met Colonel McSally, whom you'll see on TV talking about this, as the first female to fly in combat. She also got the military to not make our female military have to wear burqas. She's quite impressive in person, and quite a reasonable person. I think she views the opportunities that can be reached more by women, like being pilots, etc., as being fair, and a way for them to do well in the military. She's an advocate for it, but very logical about it. On another note, when I first heard this, I thought, there's no money for anything anymore, so it just doesn't matter. Lately that's how I view everything on the news...doesn't matter...we're bankrupt.

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  26. I'm not sure I have an opinion except that I wish NO ONE had to go to war. I agree with some of the comments above about strenght and endurance, etc. I'm sure there were valid reasons for them not being able to do it before. As much as we want equality there are some areas where we're not equal. . . . but it goes both ways. Women have strengths that men don't have.

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  27. Love your blog I followed you back on Linky's today from the Aloha Friday Blog Hop!!! Have a Simply Heavenly weekend!!! :):):)

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  28. I was in the military and am not sure how I feel about women in combat. When I was in we did not even have weapons training, but had field training. We were required to sleep outside, enter a gas chamber and put on gas masks within record time. I never knew why but the answer was always "Ours is not to reason why. Ours is but to do or die!"

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  29. I really just don't know how I feel about this. I'm all for woman voting and being able to speak their mind. What I'd do to go back in time to have only 1 person working in each family. I know some do that. It's less and less though!

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  30. I am on a military base almost every day and the women I see walking around in camis also have their nails done, a full face of make-up, and earrings in. I just find it hard to view them as "war fighters." Don't get me wrong, I'm all for equality, but whether people like to recognize it or not there is a difference between men and women and some positions, titles, jobs are just better suited for one of the sexes. Sure women can pick up a gun and pull a trigger, but there is a lot more involved in combat than just that. Months without showering, being stuck in a vehicle for so long that you have to use the restroom inside it because if you get out you run the risk of being killed. Living in such unsanitary conditions that you eventually have to strip down as a group, burn your clothes and then be sprayed down just to get rid of all the nastiness. I know I couldn't live like that and I haven't met a woman who I believe could. There is a place for females in the military, but it's not on the front lines.

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  31. I guess leaning from my experience in the corporate world, it should be the best person for the job. To me that is true equality regardless of sex, race, religion or sexual orientation. On the other hand I'm a mother, how you cope with a child in active service, gains my full respect. I wouldn't want to know that feeling even though these men and women are heroes.

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  32. This is a hard one. My husband's in the military, and is all for equal rights, if they can do everything that is required. He says that in his opinion it's just not as safe for women to be in combat for a couple of reasons, though. One is that unsanitary conditions are a lot less safe for females, because of infections that men can't get. Another is that most men are going to put a female's needs ahead of a male's, and ignore triage rules if people are wounded and/or dying. This is obviously not true for everyone, but I do think that most guys are taught from an early age that females are to be protected, etc, and that will mean that a guy will put her first, instead of someone else who could be saved with quick attention.

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